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Say what?

Critical Thinking, Religion, Social Issues

I was sent a link about how movies (really any type of movie) can “corrupt” your soul and let “Satan” into your heart, mind, and body…

Yes, I thought “Say what?!” too…

The article says

Before I realized it, I was watching a movie a weekend — sometimes two. I found myself less interested in reading. I would pick up a book and page through it, but what I really wanted to do was watch another movie. There were several titles I couldn’t wait to see. So came the midweek video.

Most of these movies were “family movies” or PG movies…

The author continues

During my video seduction, I experienced a perplexing spiritual struggle. I rationalized viewing discrete sex and partial nudity. I’m mature enough to handle this, I thought. There’s nothing wrong with merely viewing these things. I’m not the one doing them. Yet deep within my heart, I knew I was guilty.

Guilty of what exactly?

The author states

Before long, however, I found the sexual scenes more enticing and less offensive.

Here is what I don’t understand…

The viewing of sin, killings, sex, or other “things” does not let Satan into your heart. Those things and activities don’t even let him near your heart or soul… You do.

Watching movies isn’t different than reading a book…

Let me Explain… No, there is too much. Let me sum up…

If you are religious, you know God created all.

God created the animals, the plants, and us.

God wants us to procreate. To do so, he made sex pleasurable. Accept that fact. If it didn’t feel good (if it was really painful and unpleasant), we might not be here to worship him… Wrap your logic around that…

Being content with who you are and what you are lets you understand that sex is natural. Liking sex is natural.

If you think it isn’t natural, why did God create it and make it required for us to procreate?

You see, thinking that anything lets “SATAN” into you is a myth. You act and think on your own–nobody forces you.

God doesn’t understand why you think you are perfect and shouldn’t be tempted (by sex, etc). You are not God–you are imperfect.

Those who are not religious can also understand that humans, like most animals, are not perfect creatures… To expect perfection is … illogical.

The weakness is in you! The weakness is not created by the videos or the movies. Rather, the weakness is in your inability to rationalize and think critically about the feelings those visions create in your psyche.

Try to understand that. Try to educate yourself and grow.

God, and the rest of us humans, don’t like ignorance or those who think “something else made me do it.”

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Jews, Arabs, and News… Oh My!

Critical Thinking, Empathy, Freedom of Speech, Government, Legal, Politics, Social Issues

I’m sure you are all aware that Helen Thomas has “retired.” I think she was forced out due to her opinions.

Funny about that, everyone has them, but we don’t accept those that are contrary to ours…

That makes us as biased and intolerant as those we complain about doesn’t it? If not, I’d like to hear what you think is logic…

My comment to those Jews and Arabs who are exchanging barbs about this:

The people who are replying in an angry tone or with profanity are not people who want peace or who think critically. Let me explain…

There is very little that is “right” or “wrong.” Mostly, it is a matter of what your culture finds “acceptable.” You have your opinions, and everyone else has their opinion. If you think you are always “right,” you are ignorant… What is “right” for you could be “wrong” for everyone else. Again, why do you think you are always right? Do you think Hitler killed the Jews he did because he thought he was … wrong?

The road to hell is paved not with good intentions but with those who “knew” they were “right.”

People are entitled to their opinions. Even if they are widely divergent from yours, you should try to understand their reasoning (if any). If you can not try to do so, are you not as “wrong” as they are since you have your opinion? Are you “wrong” to all of the people who called Palestine home? If you never listen to those who disagree, how do you ever learn? How do you correct your misunderstandings? How do you ever alter your view?

“Terrorists” are defined by the victors or those in power. Do research or do you forget those “freedom fighters” who killed many–not just people in the military or members of a police force. Again, the act is terrorism. The reason for the act is irrelevant isn’t it? Think!

She, like everyone else, is entitled to her opinion. Nobody else has to share her opinion, and you can think she is wrong. You can think the complete opposite. Who cares? You could think 2 + 3 = 4, and you still wouldn’t be right…

The point? Take “their” side. You ran them out of their home (USA to native Americans, Jews to Palestinians, Palestinians to Jews, etc.). Who “owned it when?” Someone live there before the Jewish religion was formed? Perhaps we should return it to those with Neanderthal DNA…

Why is there a need to “hate” anyone? Jew, Arab, etc? While I think the Muslim religion is off the mark (such as requiring conversion or “taxing” those who are not Muslim), I do think people should have the ability to worship as they want so long as it doesn’t bother others.

I do think education will go a long way to changing the Muslim religion… If not, I don’t think it will survive the education of its followers. Who can support the conversion (forced or not) or the “taxing” or unfair treatment of non-believers when they don’t other religions should “tax” them or treat them differently? Logic is a funny thing… How do you justify a double standard?

Think critically. Don’t hate someone because they have an opinion or it is okay for them to hate you for your opinion. Accept that people disagree with you. Accept that you are not always “right.” Learn to communicate. If you have forgotten your history, the Jews and Arab Muslims have the same ancestors… You are simply picking a time and culture that you don’t share with each other and claiming each is “right” while the “other” is “wrong.”

That sounds like my two kids arguing…

Get over it. Grow up and sit down and talk. Listen and learn. You aren’t different, you just have different beliefs. I bet you and your spouse don’t agree on everything. One might have voted left, one right. One might like education for women, one may not. One may love mathematics, and one may like literature…

Everyone is an individual. However, we need to learn to live together… If you are going to hate someone for an opinion, then you can’t complain when people hate you…

Critical thinking. Why is it that nobody tries anymore?

You can not like what she has to say, and you have a right to say as much. However, she has a right to her opinion and a right to speak her mind.

Before you jump down my throat, understand that there is lots in each “bible” that makes no sense…

Jonah swallowed by a whale? Sure, it is documented that a child was swallowed and lived, but I don’t know that Jonah was actually swallowed… Does it matter if it is absolute truth to learn the lesson the story teaches?

Remember, it was HUMANS that wrote the texts, and we are not perfect even if you think God is… If he is perfect, I wonder how it is we are unable to think critically and solve problems–instead we act all “emotional…”

Could Jesus walk on water? I don’t think so, but do all of his teachings mean nothing if he would sink?

Why do Muslims not want you to worship an idol but get angry when you deface the image of Muḥammad? I still don’t understand that… I understand Muslims think Muḥammad wasn’t the son of God and think he was just a prophet. However, I don’t know whether Muslims get upset if an image of Jesus or Moses is defaced. If not, what is the reasoning for the double standard?

I won’t even go into some of the “religions” like Scientology that … Well, go Google/Bing/Yahoo that for yourself…

My point is that we are all individuals. Get every “group” (muslim, jew, catholic, etc.) together, and I doubt you will find any two who agree on every issue. If we can agree on that issue, why is it that people in each of those groups finds it so easy to “hate” someone in another group simply because they disagree?

People need to think critically rather than be controlled by what others think. If you let the opinions or actions of others control you, are you really following your religion?

If you don’t believe in religion/God, a double-standard should not be acceptable to your logic.

If think a double-standard is acceptable, I’d love to hear how you justify it… Do you think you are “better” than others and, therefore, can tax non-believers? How about if the other groups did so to you or others of your religion? How would you feel then about them and their practice? Think now… Don’t cave in to the ease of feeling offended. God wants you to think–that is why you have reason that differentiates you from the other life on the planet. If you aren’t religious, you hare reasoning that is documented as being “higher” or more developed than that found in other life on the planet. If you are responding emotionally, how is that helping? Remember, think…

Think Critically.

How would you feel if you were not given the same rights as everyone else simply because you believed in a different God? How would you feel if it was the same God (Jews, Muslims, and Christians) but didn’t practice the worship of that God in the same manner?

Could it be God asked each of you to worship differently?

Summary

Remember, the road to hell or damnation is not paved with good intentions… The road to damnation is not admitting your “right” may be “wrong” for other people. When you “know” you are “right” and “others” are “wrong,” how are you different from Hitler (because he “knew” he was “right”) when you treat others to a different standard just because they don’t meet certain conditions (religion, appearance, etc.)? Remember, Hitler didn’t kill Jews, homosexuals, and others because he thought he was wrong.

Hitler thought he was “right,” and he used his “justification” to do terrible things. While you might not kill so many, how is your view that “they” are “wrong” any different than Hitler’s view of the Jews or the homosexuals? You hate them because they are them and not you? You hate them because they are different or hold different beliefs? Be better than Hitler…

Tolerance and understanding. God knows. He knew we would be thrown out of Eden, and he knew we would be tested. I don’t think he knows whether we use the greatest tools he gave us (reason and freedom of though) to save us and the world. Realistically, it doesn’t look good does it?

If a child hits your child, do you suggest your child go hit the other child back? If not, you should not hate others just because they disagree with you or your views.

Failing to think critically makes everyone look … like children. Hopefully, the majority of the people on this planet can put aside childish things.

In Closing

Everyone has an opinion…

If “We” don’t like or accept those opinions that are contrary to ours, aren’t we as biased and intolerant as those we complain about just because they are “wrong?”

Stop arguing like children. Put away childish things. Growing up is hard work. So is Critical Thinking.

What say you?

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Ebony and Ivory? Say What?…

Critical Thinking, Definitions, Freedom of Speech, Humor, Legal, Politics, Social Issues

An article on TechCrunch, of all places, discusses segregation…

The author states

A quick look at my browser history shows that in the past 24 hours I’ve visited BBC News Online, the New York Times and the Guardian. Liberal news organisations all. But in that same time period, I’ve also checked in to the Murdoch-owned Sun newspaper, the Drudge Report and even Fox News (several times). According to the study, then, I’m an open minded person with a balanced news diet. But of course I’m nothing of the sort. In reality, my reasons for visiting FoxNews.com are the same as those of most of my cheese-eating, US-hating, Osama-hugging, socialist liberal friends – I’m checking in on the enemy, hoping to find something outrageous to back up my pre-existing biases against the American right. And before any Proud Hannity-waving Patriots reading this get too outraged by that confession, admit it: you visit the Guardian and the New York Times for precisely the same, if polar opposite, reasons.

Ah… No it isn’t.

What you say about your activity and browsing history says something about you and not about anyone else. You see, you aggregate everyone in with you because you are ashamed of your behaviour.

Fine, but don’t assume you are no worse than anyone else. You might be better than some too…

However, you are generalizing, and generalizing causes many problems…

There is ONE race.

The Human Race.

We are not cats and dogs that can not breed. Biologically, there may be differences between different people from different places, but the skin color is not the dividing factor. The skin color is similar to wider hips, different teeth structure, and other anatomical differences.

You see, we are what has evolved through our ancestors. Whatever gene may have given them an adaptive advantage is displayed in us today. It could be an adaptive disadvantage but one that has survived! Color may be one of those, but color is then just like other adaptive advantages depending on when/where our ancestors developed.

Don’t go jump on “black” was here first, so “white” is more advanced!

Hogwash. Meat-eating animals are said, by experts, to have been here before plant eaters. Does that make vegetarians more “advanced?” No, it means that it took time for evolution to allow for the development of the 7 stomachs or other advantage that allows animals to adequately use vegetative matter as a food source… Alternatively, it could mean that it took a while for eating vegetables to be an advantage over eating meat…

Think Critically rather than just assume…

What I think

If you are “white,” go visit Disparaging Terms (no longer active, my apologies–this site was run by Darrell and was an interesting read regarding said terms). Go visit Afrospear. It is another nice site about customs and people you might not be aware of but who are, contrary to what you might have ‘heard,’ exactly like you (just close your eyes and think about what they are going through).

Go visit different sites to LEARN how you have been brainwashed and how you have assumed certain truths even though you have no idea whether what you have been told is true…

Read “Public Opinion” by Walter Lippmann.

Think Critically.

How can you be so ignorant to think a person’s skin color makes them better or worse than another person with another skin color?

Where do you draw the line?

What is an ethnic group? I don’t like the term “race” because I think we are one race-human. What distinguishes us? If a white person marries a black person and has a kid who marries the child of a Japanese person and a Mexican, what is their child’s race? Assuming it is “black” because there is some black in there is just as stupid as labeling them white.

What we need to do…

We need to look at our similarities rather than our differences. We are human.

Looking out for “our own”-whether the “Mexican” hotel workers described in the post on TechCrunch or other “groups-means we are focusing on one part of who we are at the expense of the whole. We will NEVER get to view us as similar if we focus on the differences.

My Solution

One law to guarantee fairness for all. No special treatment for any group–we all have the same protection under the law.

We can’t correct past errors by giving people special treatment or other value. Rather, we have to erase the incorrect action, the cause of the past bad action–the discrimination.

Realistically, we can’t give the USA back to the Souix and other tribes. We can’t track or pay anyone for all past transgressions. What we can do is guarantee, to the best of our ability, that everyone is entitled to the same treatment under the law.

If we don’t attempt to guarantee equal treatment to all, aren’t we focusing special attention on some group? If we focus ‘our’ attention on ‘our group,’ aren’t we guilty of the same behavior that caused ‘us’ the injustice, the discrimination, in the first place? We would be, in effect, putting ‘ourselves’ first ahead of ‘others.’ Isn’t that what we are trying to avoid?

What say you?

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R-rated movies and drinking? Incomplete analysis and bad reporting…

Critical Thinking, Social Issues

WECT has a post that states

They found that among kids who said their parents never allowed them to watch R-rated movies, few took up drinking over the next couple of years.

What they don’t say is what was the percentage that were drinking from both groups after “the next couple of years.”

What gets me about this type of reporting is that it is incomplete and reports … nothing.

If the study doesn’t address the language, you, as a critical thinker, have to ask why they phrased their findings such that “few took up drinking over the next couple of years.” For all I know, the kids that watched R-rated movies took it up quicker but didn’t go overboard (i.e., get drunk) because they realized what drinking could do…

I drank when I was “under-age” since I grew up outside the USA. Nobody thought anything of it, and I drink “socially” now-a glass or two of wine a week. Not exactly a drunk by any means. Likewise, I was never drunk through high school. Why? I had many friends who were drunk and they all looked stupid, did stupid things, and didn’t remember a thing. We were all part of the popular group, but my friends who drank all thought the attention was good instead of being laughed at…

Trying to tell them that was met with ridicule… Of course, many of them were to become alcoholics later in life. However, I doubt R-rated movies had anything to do with whether or not they were “drunks.” Rather, what makes people drink too much is an inability to deal with emotions and disappointment, not to mention how to move forward and improve your life.

Seems like we should be teaching psychology in elementary school…

This type of reporting is like saying a blackout causes many pregnancies… I hate to break it down, but intercourse, with ejaculation while inside the female, is what causes these pregnancies. If you don’t know the difference, you are not thinking critically…

What say you?

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What is all the fuss about stuff being “OPEN?”

Apple, Critical Thinking, Tech

I don’t get it..

THere are news here, here, here, and here

What is the big deal?!

Who cares if it is open or not?

I’ll tell you who. NOBODY cares!

People buy the iPhone-it isn’t open.
People by the Macintosh computer-it isn’t open.
People use OS/X-yep, it isn’t open.

People use Flash-it isn’t open.
People use Word-it isn’t open.
People play WoW-it isn’t open.

Do I need to go on?!

The “open” topic is a red herring to keep you focused on something other than the fact that Apple is not letting users decide what they want and what can be used on a device.

You see, Flash would be an application that would allow something on the iDevices that did not replicate a service provided by Apple.

Apple is trying to make users accept that it is the hardware (the iPhone, the iPod, the iPad) that is necessary rather than software.

You are all saying RIGHT! It is the iPhone OS that runs them all and is what we want!

Wrong. The Palm Treo 650 had a very similar GUI…go look at some videos. It is the applications and the uses that the OS allow the user to use and enjoy that is what the users want.

If Apple could move from the PowerPC to the x86 intel chip with No problem from the users perspective, why do they think the hardware on their devices is what is necessary?

Just as it isn’t about whether it is open or not, I have to say it isn’t about hardware either. I’ve said it since 2005… It is about software and apps that let the user accomplish their goals. It doesn’t matter if it is an iPhone, an Android device, a Windows phone, or the Palm WebOS. Hell, the PalmOS would still function to do all I want. It would do most of what everyone wants too.

Stop buying the line that everyone wants you to buy. Think for yourself.

Open isn’t relevant if it doesn’t do anyting useful. Hardware is irrelevant if the user can’t do anything.

Of course, I don’t think many of the general public will think for themselves to realize anything… However, I hope a few of you do.

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Seriously ignorant and panic-stricken…

Critical Thinking, Empathy, Freedom of Speech, Government, Humor, Legal, Politics, Social Issues

Australia has banned, yes…banned, small-breasted women from appearing topless and in pornography because, as stated in the Inquisitr

The ban (RC) on small breasted women in adult publications has been made by the Australian Classification Board allegedly on the grounds that such images could be construed as child pornography, even where those publications comply with American law and keep certification that performers are over 18.

Wow… Australian governmental officials try to make women realize what “real” woman look like (those without plastic surgery or those suffering from Anorexia) while baring “small-breasted” women because they look “young” due to their breast size…

Specifically, Think about the Children states…

The National Classification Code dictates that anything that describes or depicts a person who is, or appears to be, a child under 18 (whether the person is engaged in sexual activity or not) in a way that is likely to cause offence to a reasonable adult is Refused Classification.

Again, wow…

Ignorance and paranoia abound. Do people, or parlimentarians, stick their head in the sand and hope to save the world by trying to get everyone else to stick their head in the sand too?

Simply amazing…

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Does anyone remember what Evolution is all about?

Critical Thinking, Definitions, Government, Legal, Planetary Temperatures, Social Issues

A news story by Reuters states

Spring comes about 10 days earlier in the United States than it did two decades ago, a consequence of climate change that favors invasive species over indigenous ones, scientists said on Tuesday.

Yes… We again look at a climate change over a short period of time. While this MAY mean something, we are at the beginnings of Climate Change Science.

We are, however, affecting our environment. We release carbon dioxide and other pollutants into the atmosphere, water, and soil. To assume that these releases do not have an affect is, in my opinion, wrong.

However, to say that any such change will “damage” the earth is just as, in my opinion, wrong.

Why?

Was the asteroid/meteor that hit the earth about 65 million years ago (by best estimates) create a pollution event that let Humans evolve and become what we are today? In the past, did “supervolcanoes” create events that altered global temperature? Did fires or natural populations alter plant species/densities and alter global temperatures? Did that “destroy” earth or affect humans?

Affecting humans in a way we do not like is not necessarily “bad” for the planet is it? Think about it…

The post continues to state

Based on Thoreau’s notes and research by botanists in the area, Davis and other scientists figure that about 30 percent of the plant species Thoreau saw are locally extinct and a further 30 percent are in scarce supply, crowded out by southern invaders that can now thrive in New England.

Have these species that are described as “extinct” or “in scarce supply” just moved north and are no longer “in the area?” If so, they aren’t extinct or in scarce supply… Those statements would be misleading. Could we have created a shift in the climate’s temperatures so that the plants migrated? Sure.

However, to say that such migration is “bad” is putting a human value on a change in temperatures. Just as it may limit our snowboarding in California, it may allow other species to flourish or create opportunities for other living creatures–even if we don’t value those living creatures…

If affecting the environment for our benefit is “bad,” why is maintaining the environment in a stable range that is below global temperatures on a global scale a “good” thing just because we like it like this or expect it to be this way?

Try to remember geologic time rather than temperatures over the past 4,000 years…

Average Global Temperatures over Geologic Time

Evolution fits in how?

When global temperatures and conditions change, living creatures die, cope, or evolve. Just because we say rising temperatures are “bad” for us because we will lose homes along the coast, lose snow sports in many areas, and lose other “valuable” things does not mean that such rising temperatures are bad for the Earth or outside of the normal. Remember, these events are when Evolution tends to jump into overdrive…

Do a Yahoo, Google, or Bing search for what happened about 65 million years ago…

Think critically, please..

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iPad… All that?

Apple, Critical Thinking, Humor, Tech

Apple has released the iPad. If you actually don’t know or aren’t sick of all the posts, you are in the minority…

What are the problems with the iPad?

  1. Charging from power plug-in is the only efficient way;
  2. Fragile-not as tough as the iPod or iPhone;
  3. Apps are more expensive;
  4. No Flash;
  5. Not open–not open-source software, but open to put your own stuff on there…;
  6. why go on?

Flash isn’t necessary! Or so I hear. Many say that HTML5 will solve the streaming video / Flash debate.

No it won’t

You see, Adobe’s strength is that it understands that the output we view may be affected by different monitors, printers, etc… Adobe’s products make all that irrelevant. PDF documents look the same across platforms (OS/X, Windows, Linux, …) and software (Office, OpenOffice, Wordperfect, …).

Flash isn’t just streaming video–although many think it is limited to that function. Flash provides many other benefits like not having to worry if you have the right codec for the video or audio. What codec you ask?

Right… You see, Flash takes care of all of that for you. The user has Flash and does not have to worry if the video was encoded with H264, mpeg, mov, avi, …. The end user does not have to worry about codecs, resolutions, other software, etc. It is a complete platform for the delivery of ’stuff.’

If you think Flash = streaming video, please go here and read…

It is more complex than that…

Do you program at all?

If you program a little, you may want to put some of your programs on your mobile device. However, you would have to submit your program to Apple for their verification/approval if you want to put it on your iPhone/iPad/iPod. Why? To control the user experience?

Sure. For the non-tech / average USA citizen, that is fine. Why not allow those of us “with the know,” to do more? You see, I will not submit my stuff for Apple to approve or reject. Why should I? I would have to pay to have it approved when I only want to use it myself? What if I don’t want it released?

It is MY device, isn’t it? To me, this is like Apple telling me they have to approve those I add to my contact list. I understand that MOST users don’t feel the same way, but it is an issue for me.

Summary

Don’t let Apple ouster Flash to put in H264–that it controls. Why is one better than the other? Flash does a little more than just encode video-streaming or otherwise.

Look past the shiny lights and tech. Like people, tech shouldn’t be judged by popularity or exterior appearances.

Or are you that shallow?

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Failed Logic…from a tech perspective…

Critical Thinking, Humor, Social Issues, Tech

Engadget is reporting that JooJoo is well…

Actually, Engadget stated

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Engadget has since altered their language to say that such bank transfers are common in Europe but still “rare” in the United States.

Either way, you give that information to anyone you give a check to in the United States of America. On each check is your name, your bank, your account number, and the bank’s routing number…

If you would give a check to any John, Dick, or Harry, you are blabbering if you are stating a company (or anyone for that matter) is “shady” because they ask for that information–especially if it is a company that you ordered a product from and that company is trying to wire you money for a refund.

What say you?

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Are guns carried in public a problem?

Critical Thinking, Empathy, Firearms, Government, Legal, Social Issues

You may be asking why anyone would carry a loaded gun in public.

Of course, the police do it every day, and most people have no problem with the police carrying guns around in broad daylight.

Why are “normal civilians” any different? It might be that the person carrying the firearm has more training than the police. You never know. The person carrying the firearm may have no training. Funny how that works…

A story carried by the Associated Press states

Meleanie Hain made headlines after she attended her then 5-year-old daughter’s soccer game in a park on Sept. 11, 2008, with her 9mm Glock pistol in plain view holstered on her hip, upsetting other parents.

The county sheriff, Michael DeLeo, revoked her gun-carrying permit nine days later.

Hain successfully appealed the permit revocation, although the judge who restored the permit questioned her judgment and said she had “scared the devil” out of other people at the game.

Unfortunately, the article alleges their kids ran from the house yelling that their dad had shot their mom in a “murder-suicide.”

Back to the Issue…

When you see a policeman carrying a gun, nobody panics even though we don’t really know that the person in the uniform and carrying the gun is a police officer. We assume the person is an officer and we expect them to carry guns and know how to use firearms.

Our expectations kill us and appear to force us to not think critically.

Many of those “upset parents” at the soccer game likely know her but were scared by the “open carry” which is legal in many jurisdictions.

An attorney with the Brady Center (anti-gun group), one David Vice, was quoted in the article

“It is a case that calls out for common sense,” Brady Center attorney Daniel Vice said then. “It’s ridiculous to bring a gun to a child’s soccer game.”

I sincerely hope that nobody wants to make a point at a game where his child is running around playing soccer unless one educated, knowledgeable, and trained civilian is carrying a firearm with a valid concealed carry permit.

I’d hate to think that anyone’s child had to die because “we” were afraid that “we” couldn’t appropriately and carefully use a firearm to protect the public even though we are not “police officers.”

If someone was to pull a gun in public and start shooting, how long would it take the police to arrive?

What would you think of a civilian, your neighbor perhaps, if they pulled a gun and shot the lunatic that opened up at a kid’s soccer game with an uzi? Hero or someone lacking in “common sense?”

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A Health Care Story…

Critical Thinking, Definitions, Empathy, Government, Humor, Poetry, Politics, Social Issues

Lots of sites have “talked” about how a for-profit system is a disaster…

I have someone who has submitted to me information and enough proof to justify me posting this…

Mr. Happy has private health insurance through Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina.  He has a chronic disease (diabetes), has had a son born three months premature, and has had his wife undergo surgery.  He has been to the emergency room over 12 times in the past 7 years, and he is…..

Happy with his health care coverage.

He is not broke or in bankruptcy.  Perhaps it is BCBS’s plan that he participates in is so much better than those plans everyone else participates in, but should we, the people, demand that he get the same care we do–perhaps his employer is willing to accept those costs.

You want my suggestion?

Ask your congress person why they don’t propose to cover every USA citizen with the same health plan offered to USA federal employees–you know, the health care options the congress members get to choose to cover their health care needs.

Congress could just as easily pass a new law giving every USA citizen the same health care they enjoy…

Remember, Congress will keep their current plan and not be required to participate in the new proposed health care system.

Why don’t they provide everyone with what they provide themselves? Oh, you don’t know what options they have? See the governments web-site

I dare you to call and ask…

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Profiling…

Critical Thinking, Empathy, Social Issues, Uncategorized

It happens. It happened to me when I “matched” the description given by a “witness.” Should the witness’s description not be headed? Should a person who calls 911 be required to get identification of a “potential criminal” prior to calling 911?

There are many issues to deal with in this country, and “race” (not a contest to see who gets to a point first) needs to be one of them… However, there are no easy answers…

Why Not?

No real “facts” to pin our answers on…

Thought process of perpetrators is different from those who have NOT thought of committing a crime;

Car thieves are from “low income” families;

…  The list goes on.
I am sure there are many reasons for someone to steal a car:

1.  Joy-riding;

2.  Parts, sale of;

3.  Sale of car;

4.  Transportation; and/or

5.  combination of the above.

There are others, but I would assume (dangerous, I know) these are the more probable reasons…

Michele Bratcher Goodwin writes about her experiences with being stopped by the police while driving her Mercedes.  I can only sympathize with her and her experiences…

Her experiences, however valid, do not excuse inappropriate behavior by the LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) or generalizations made about LEO by those stopped.

Someone (go figure) called me “stupid,” but I was not, suddenly, struck an intellectual brick…  Rather, the person calling me “stupid” was unable to discuss a sensitive issue in a socially constructive and acceptable manner–that is my opinion anyway…

People who stop you because you are “black” say something about them–not about you.  While it is a huge waste of time and resources, the “stop” says nothing about you while it may say a lot about the person stopping you.

In discussing this with a “mixed” group (blacks, browns, yellows, whites, reds, …), each individual has stories of “being treated unfairly.”  I don’t doubt that some or all of these instances were unfair.  Does it mean the individual doing the treating was “racist” or does it mean the situation was ripe with racial issues?

If a white person questions the ownership of someone who is (insertyournon-whitecolorhere) and driving a BMW, does it mean they are profiling?  Racist?  Doing their job? Or that many preconceptions, by some or all of those all involved, are being made?

For all we know, the person driving the BMW owns the car, stole the car, is borrowing the car…

Most justice systems admit that some innocent are found guilty.  This is not fair either, but it happens.  Does it mean the prosecution is “racist” or otherwise prejudiced?  Could it mean they were working with what they have? Could it be it is Department policy and does not reflect the officer’s position (of course if it didn’t, why stop the driver…)?

In each situation, the facts may differ.

I know “black” people are stopped in their own cars, I know “white” people are called “racist” when they aren’t, and I know lots of comments and critical attacks are made.  However, all of these attacks and comments are due to the fact that, in my opinion, people don’t know how to discuss this issue in a socially-acceptable manner that is constructive and open.

To get “open and constructive,” you have to listen to what is said without interruption.  You have to hear what is being said, and you have to try and place yourself, to the best of your ability, in the “other” person’s shoes (so to speak).  You have to empathize with that person–something you can NOT do if you don’t let go of your emotional attachment to your position.

Empathy.  If you can’t practice it you will not be able to solve any issue because you will be to busy screaming about your position.  We, as a people (any people–if you are thinking COLOR here, shame on you… This comment has NOTHING to do with color…), will never have the same thought about any position (go read Federalist Paper #10).  Our paths have taken us down different roads with different experiences. 

I know those who say, “I can not expect a pure “white” person to fully appreciate being stopped due to my color can I?”  How about a “white” boy who is stopped outside of the USA in a country where most people are not white?  “You own this car?”  I’ve heard that…  It does not matter WHAT color the officer is, the practice is wrong.

The issue in the USA is that this term “racism” is really misapplied.  It matters not what the “race” is (rather an ethnic origin, etc…) because it is really treatment that is historically created by those “in power” towards those “not in power.”  In Puerto Rico, it is are you “a USA citizen (white, black, yellow, red, etc.) or are you “Puerto Rican?”

Sure, Puerto Rico has its “color flavors” in terms of Mulato, Mestizo, etc., but that is not relevant when you are talking about who you are in the “power struggle.”

Summary

We should attempt to hear people who talk to us about these issues. However, a discussion is a talk between parties where both are able to speak, hear, and empathize to the other people in the discussion. Failure for one, or both, sides to speak, hear, and empathize means there is no discussion.

Unfortunately, I don’t think there is a discussion in the USA because nobody is willing to speak, hear, and empathize. Rather, most people seem to want to scream how “racist,” “wrong,” or otherwise “unfair” the system may be instead of having a productive discussion on how to work towards a thought process where we can avoid the pitfalls we are currently falling over…

If we can’t learn to empathize, we will never be able to understand how anyone else feels in order to help them, and the rest of us, feel the same.

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Walter Cronkite

Critical Thinking, Obituary, Social Issues

He passed away…

I remember the last interview he gave that I saw…

He stated the American people were “dumb.” He blamed the media and not education, although I think they are both to blame…

He stated that the population and the media seem interested in the “spectacular” rather than the “relevant.” He said journalists were supposed to tell the public what they should know and not what they wanted to know.

This gets back to public opinion or the lack thereof…

Go read Public Opinion by Walter Lippmann (available free on-line).

You will see how presentation in the media and to the public affects public opinion.

Growing Up

I think Walter would say that youth today (those under 60) are not growing up. Rather, kids seem to continue to act like High School kids throughout their life…

Petty squabbles, jealousy, bullies, gossip, …

If we can all admit that High School was really our hormones running US around without clear thought, why would we want to continue acting like “kids?”

With shows like Real Housewives of (insert your county here), I see High School (or Middle School) activity by adults. No wonder our kids fail to learn to put away childish things when they grow up. Most parents don’t.

If we could just teach kids to think critically, they might be able to grasp what their parents do not… Of course, I don’t expect anyone wants to teach people to think critically…

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Dan Lawson, Politics, and Education…

Critical Thinking, Empathy, Government, Legal, Politics, Social Issues

I went to three Universities during my “higher” education. All of them were “in the South.” I will get back to this in a bit…

Dan Lawson is a journalism student at the University of Oregon. He has an opinion post over at the Christian Science Monitor in which he noted

The University of Oregon (UO), where I study journalism, invested millions annually in a diversity program that explicitly included “political affiliation” as a component. Yet, out of the 111 registered Oregon voters in the departments of journalism, law, political science, economics, and sociology, there were only two registered Republicans.

Mr. Lawson was warned by a “conservative” professor that he was going to be “stirring the fire” with his questions regarding whether such a one-sided political affiliation of the professors would limit discourse regarding politics and political thinking–whether religious, financial, or otherwise.

Here are a few excerpts from his post, and I suggest you go read his article

A professor who confronted me declared that he was “personally offended” by my column. He railed that his political viewpoints never affected his teaching and suggested that if I wanted a faculty with Republicans I should have attended a university in the South. “If you like conservatism you can certainly attend the University of Texas and you can walk past the statue of Jefferson Davis everyday on your way to class,” he wrote in an e-mail.

I was shocked by such a comment, which seemed an attempt to link Republicans with racist orthodoxy. When I wrote back expressing my offense, he neither apologized nor clarified his remarks.

I expected the following

“You think you’re so [expletive] cute with your little column,” she told me. “I read your piece and all you want is attention. You’re just like Bill O’Reilly. You just want to get up on your [expletive] soapbox and have people look at you.”

Why this is bad

People who are unable to communicate and discuss issues when the people in the discussion disagree must be able to remain calm and accept that some people will think differently. Failure to do so makes “you” as bad as “them.”

By this, I mean that if the female professor actually acted in that fashion, was she not “acting” just like “Bill O-Rielly” would act when confronted with some “liberal outrage?” Her failure to listen, think critically, and address the ISSUE presented shows, if accurate, a lack of an ability to discuss and educate the students. Rather, resorting to anger and “cheap shots” is the actions I expect my children to take when they don’t get their way or when I disagree with them because they have yet to gain those skills all of us adults should be required to learn.

Mr. Lawson’s summary follows

After my article on political diversity was published, I received numerous e-mails from students at other schools who spoke of similar experiences. As a result of my research and personal experience, I can now say without reservation that the lack of ideological diversity on college campuses is a dangerous threat to free and open discourse in academia. Sadly, there are few perfect solutions.

I agree.

Rant
Those who attended ECU graduate school may have had a Professor of Philosophy come talk to them during their “initiation” into the graduate school. This professor gave an example of us finding an inhabited island in the south pacific. The “islanders” worshiped a “volcano god” and would sacrifice a young lady to the “volcano god” every year to keep the “volcano god” appeased (i.e., so the volcano would not erupt…).

The professor asked us if this “sacrifice” was “wrong.” I was the only one who said “It would be wrong for me, but I am not going to judge them.”

The professor followed up the question with another. “Should we go to this island and force the islanders to stop what they are doing (sacrificing young women for “no reason”)?

I was the only student to say “No.”

He immediately fixated on me. “Are you saying you would not save the women?”

I have no idea why he didn’t ask “Why” I answered the way I did instead of enter into an attack on my position.

You see, I don’t think you can “force” people to change their opinions/beliefs using force (of arms, of trade, or of any other “power”). My comment to the professor was that “I would bring people to the island and begin educating the islanders about geology, plate tectonics, etc. so that they could understand WHY the volcano erupted so that they, themselves, could alter their behavior so that women would not be killed needlessly.

The professor stated “There is always one in each class.” After a brief pause, he continued, “Can’t you see what they are doing is wrong and should be stopped?”

I replied, “I doubt Hitler thought he was “wrong” to murder the people he killed, so I am not going to judge them “wrong.” I am going to educate them so that they can, perhaps, realize that sacrificing a woman will not stop the volcano–then they will alter their behavior and not feel forced to do so.

The professor stated that “There is always one person who doesn’t get it.” He continued his speech and quickly left after finishing.

I wonder whether he supported Bush in his invasion of Iraq because he stated he was a “liberal.” However, his suggestion to “use force” to “correct an injustice” sounds a lot like a conservative to me…

End Rant

Mr. Lawson states

What’s so remarkable is that I hadn’t actually advocated Republican ideas or conservative ideas. In fact, I’m not a conservative, nor a Republican. I simply believe in the concept of diversity – a primarily liberal idea – and think that we suffer when we don’t include ideas we find unappealing.

Failure to present an idea, however “crazy” it may seem, reduces the ability of those being educated to think critically–to think for themselves using logic and reason. If we simply “belittle” ideas out of the discussion due to their “conservative” or “liberal” nature, aren’t we doing a disservice to those being educated?

I know I bring it up all to often, but this process of “lop-sided” politics is what the Founding Fathers hoped to avoid. The Federalist Paper #10, written by James Madison, states

Complaints are everywhere heard from our most considerate and virtuous citizens, equally the friends of public and private faith, and of public and personal liberty, that our governments are too unstable, that the public good is disregarded in the conflicts of rival parties, and that measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority.

There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects.

It could never be more truly said than of the first remedy, that it was worse than the disease. Liberty is to faction what air is to fire, an aliment without which it instantly expires. But it could not be less folly to abolish liberty, which is essential to political life, because it nourishes faction, than it would be to wish the annihilation of air, which is essential to animal life, because it imparts to fire its destructive agency.

The second expedient is as impracticable as the first would be unwise. As long as the reason of man continues fallible, and he is at liberty to exercise it, different opinions will be formed. As long as the connection subsists between his reason and his self-love, his opinions and his passions will have a reciprocal influence on each other; and the former will be objects to which the latter will attach themselves. The diversity in the faculties of men, from which the rights of property originate, is not less an insuperable obstacle to a uniformity of interests. The protection of these faculties is the first object of government. From the protection of different and unequal faculties of acquiring property, the possession of different degrees and kinds of property immediately results; and from the influence of these on the sentiments and views of the respective proprietors, ensues a division of the society into different interests and parties.

What James says is that people will have bad ideas, will be greedy and put “self” above “country,” and will not be able to reach a state where everyone “agrees” with each other.

Instead of “ordering” a thought process (anyone remember the Sedition Act?), Madison describes how people, however enlightened, are “interested parties”

No man is allowed to be a judge in his own cause, because his interest would certainly bias his judgment, and, not improbably, corrupt his integrity. With equal, nay with greater reason, a body of men are unfit to be both judges and parties at the same time; yet what are many of the most important acts of legislation, but so many judicial determinations, not indeed concerning the rights of single persons, but concerning the rights of large bodies of citizens? And what are the different classes of legislators but advocates and parties to the causes which they determine? Is a law proposed concerning private debts? It is a question to which the creditors are parties on one side and the debtors on the other. Justice ought to hold the balance between them. Yet the parties are, and must be, themselves the judges; and the most numerous party, or, in other words, the most powerful faction must be expected to prevail. Shall domestic manufactures be encouraged, and in what degree, by restrictions on foreign manufactures? are questions which would be differently decided by the landed and the manufacturing classes, and probably by neither with a sole regard to justice and the public good. The apportionment of taxes on the various descriptions of property is an act which seems to require the most exact impartiality; yet there is, perhaps, no legislative act in which greater opportunity and temptation are given to a predominant party to trample on the rules of justice. Every shilling with which they overburden the inferior number, is a shilling saved to their own pockets.

Re-read that… I’ll wait…

Madison concludes

It is in vain to say that enlightened statesmen will be able to adjust these clashing interests, and render them all subservient to the public good. Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. Nor, in many cases, can such an adjustment be made at all without taking into view indirect and remote considerations, which will rarely prevail over the immediate interest which one party may find in disregarding the rights of another or the good of the whole.

The inference to which we are brought is, that the causes of faction cannot be removed, and that relief is only to be sought in the means of controlling its effects.

How to do that?

Madison suggests

If a faction consists of less than a majority, relief is supplied by the republican principle, which enables the majority to defeat its sinister views by regular vote. It may clog the administration, it may convulse the society; but it will be unable to execute and mask its violence under the forms of the Constitution. When a majority is included in a faction, the form of popular government, on the other hand, enables it to sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens. To secure the public good and private rights against the danger of such a faction, and at the same time to preserve the spirit and the form of popular government, is then the great object to which our inquiries are directed. Let me add that it is the great desideratum by which this form of government can be rescued from the opprobrium under which it has so long labored, and be recommended to the esteem and adoption of mankind.

By what means is this object attainable? Evidently by one of two only. Either the existence of the same passion or interest in a majority at the same time must be prevented, or the majority, having such coexistent passion or interest, must be rendered, by their number and local situation, unable to concert and carry into effect schemes of oppression. If the impulse and the opportunity be suffered to coincide, we well know that neither moral nor religious motives can be relied on as an adequate control. They are not found to be such on the injustice and violence of individuals, and lose their efficacy in proportion to the number combined together, that is, in proportion as their efficacy becomes needful.

This is the reason we don’t have a pure democracy as a government. This “suggestion” is why politicians should protect the rights of the minority in a manner such that the minority can exercise their rights–rights that anyone can exercise but may not due to their political affiliation or bent. Owning and possession of a firearm by a citizen is one of these rights in my opinion.

I would never suggest we limit the free speech enjoyed by those who argue for their cause, but I see that some people can not think critically and feel a need to make me live in the manner in which they would live–limited to their actions and their beliefs.

This is not the freedom the USA was founded to protect. The freedom to have my own religion, my own thoughts and speech, my political interests, and my ability to “be different” while guaranteeing me the same rights enjoyed by every other citizen is what makes the USA great.

Now, I see politicians and educators trying to limit thought, discussion, and diversity (of thought) as if limiting diversity of thought is, somehow, not as “bad” as limiting diversity of individuals, ethnic origin, or otherwise limiting the rights of “some” to the benefit of “others.”

Summary

Only one of the Universities I attended had any “racist” attitudes that I encountered.  To say the “south” is “racist” is a logical fallacy.  People may be “racist,” but I doubt geographic regions are…

I have lived in the “South” and in the “North.”  In my experience, I have seen too many “racists” in both areas…  To say one is worse than the other is irrelevant.  The issue, to me, is that we need to educate people since ignorance can’t be “forced out”–either by physical force or by dictating a “way of thought.”

If your opinion is so “right,” you should welcome a calm discussion of the issue. You should not be “afraid” when someone questions your thoughts or beliefs–nobody has to agree with you, and I suggest, as postulated by Madison, that everyone will NOT agree. While we are social animals, we are, at heart, individuals.

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Ideologies… What are they?

Critical Thinking, Social Issues, Uncategorized

The American Heritage Dictionary states an Ideology is

NOUN:
pl. i·de·ol·o·gies

1. The body of ideas reflecting the social needs and aspirations of an individual, group, class, or culture.
2. A set of doctrines or beliefs that form the basis of a political, economic, or other system.

So what? You ask.

Linda Basch, the president of the National Council for Research on Women (in the United States), has an opinion piece at the Christian Science Monitor that states

As has been pointed out with increasing frequency, a certain groupthink has been widely blamed for the economic crisis we find ourselves in today.

Barnard College president Deborah Spar dubbed our predicament a “one gender crash,” and The New York Times’s Nicholas Kristof wonders if we might all have been better off had it been “Lehman Brothers and Sisters.”

Studies indicate that women are more comprehensive thinkers and less attracted to excessive risk than are their male peers. It seems we have reached a fairly broad consensus on the meltdown: Guys were the ones flying too close to the sun.

Now that we’ve landed back on earth with a mighty thud – a little humbler and a whole lot poorer – it’s time to deal with the most important question of the day: How do we get more women into the good-old-boys network at the highest levels of the financial sector?

Generalizations kill…

A few points before I give you my opinion… :)

  1. Perhaps the financial sector teaches/preaches a certain mind-set–sort of like medical or law school; and
  2. Generalizations are always wrong and support Ideologies.

My opinion

Ms. Basch, with all due respect, is making a statement that I think is aimed at “prodding the pig” to get publicity for an upcoming publication–Women in Fund Management: A Road Map for Achieving Critical Mass and Why it Matters.

Makes you want to say, Hmmmm.

I want a diversified employee base, but to think that the people making up the employees define what goes on “in the sector” might be putting the cart before the horse…

The push in finance is to make a profit. Promotions and “fame” are handed out to those that make profit for the firm–arguably for the clients, but I don’t think that is necessary for them…

Good lawyers will tell you law school altered the way they look at the world. So to, I would expect, does most “jobs.” Meaning, police often have opinions based on their experience that does not, in my opinion, spread out to apply to everyone “similar” to those of which they have opinions about… Yes, read that again…

I’d like her to go look at women in finance and see what the “successful” women have been doing. Let me see…

  1. Bodil Nyboe Andersen, governor of Denmark’s Nationalbank;
  2. Ana Patricia Botin, the CEO of Coverlink, Spain’s largest Internet consulting company;
  3. Abby Joseph Cohen, Partner and Chief Strategist at Goldman Sachs;
  4. Dina Dublon, Chief Financial Officer, Chase Manhattan Bank; and
  5. Patricia Dunn, Chairman at Barclays Global Investors.

Forbes said, in 2005, that Ms. Cohen was

Cohen has been a partner at this white-shoe investment bank since 1998, and CNBC and Reuters have cited her equity market forecasts as being the most accurate projections provided by any of the major firms in 2003 and 2004, though in recent years she has been dinged for being a wee bit too bullish on the stock market.

I doubt she would have been “dinged” if she wasn’t taking risks…

I would argue that most of them feel like Ms. Dunn who, in an year 2000 article about the most powerful women in finance, said

[T]he great financial services companies of the future will be those that deliver the greatest value for money to their customers.

“I know gender has posed fairness issues for many women, but I have never felt limited by being a woman. If the signals were there, I guess I ignored them.”

My guess is that companies do take risks to return the greatest value. Of course, I could be wrong…

Thoughts

Whether you look at Amelia Earhart, Henry “Industrial Revolution” Ford, or anyone else, taking a risk is exactly what is at the center of someone getting out and doing something that will “break them out of their mold.”

Without taking a risk, how would you ever do something that had not been done before? Whether you call it analysis, leap of faith, or risk, you take a step without knowing the outcome. To think that anyone moves forward without the analysis is, I think, the mistake.

So, I think Ms. Basch is wrong. It isn’t “men” that caused the financial meltdown. Rather, it is people in finance, their regulators, and the investing public (private companies, individuals, etc.) that got greedy and wanted “profit.” This “need for greed” is what drives the risk, calculated as it may be.

So before you go pointing the finger at “men,” think. I certainly could, using her argument, make many statements about “insert your group here.” The problem with any of those statements would be that the statement would be based on a generalization. Just because someone can point to some coincidence and make a statement does not make the statement true.

Drunk drivers get into wrecks. However, not everyone who drinks ends up driving. To say that men should not drink but that women should drink would be the wrong thing to say just because, in general, more men end up crashing while driving while intoxicated. One outcome does not mean the other is true. Rather, nobody should drive while drunk…

Of course, you won’t believe me…

I refer you to The hormone replacement - coronary heart disease conundrum: is this the death of observational epidemiology? by Lawlor DA, Smith GD & Ebrahim S as published in the International Journal of Epidemiology in 2004 (Vol 33, pages 464-467).

Let me explain. No, there is too much. I will sum up…

The study cited above concludes

[N]umerous epidemiological studies showed that women who were taking combined hormone replacement therapy (HRT) also had a lower-than-average incidence of coronary heart disease (CHD), leading doctors to propose that HRT was protective against CHD. But controlled trials showed that HRT caused a small and significant increase in risk of CHD. Re-analysis of the data showed that women undertaking HRT were more likely to be from higher socio-economic groups (ABC1), with better than average diet and exercise regimes. The two were coincident effects of a common cause, rather than cause and effect as had been supposed.

One is cause-and-effect, the other is correlation. As well stated on Wikipedia

[C]orrelation proves causation, is a logical fallacy by which two events that occur together are claimed to have a cause-and-effect relationship.

Think…Critically.

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Give “haters” power over us, our language, and our symbols?

Definitions, Empathy, Social Issues

No.

I follow an interseting blog called afrospear (http://afrospear.wordpress.com), and I like the perspective I get there.  As in most “contentious” discussions about politics, social issues, and even technology, sometimes opinions get heated.  Everyone has an opinion (as we should).

What I like to see is critical thinking.  There is a lot of it at that sight (in my opinion), but sometimes I think we, humans, might be giving in to those that “hate”–whether pro-white, pro-black, or pro-anything.

Let me explain.  No, there is too much…  Let me sum up…

I think there is one race.

Human.

If you were thinking any particular “race” as currently used, I ask you, “Why?”  Do you know my “color?”  Does my “color” matter?  If you think my “color” matters, I ask you why?  Can’t anyone be rational or think critically?

On afrospear, there was a post and some discussion about the how many times “white” people blame “black” people for crimes–like the false allegation made by Ms. Sweeten that two “black” men kidnapped her and her daughter.

I think the police need to investigate any such claim, and I commented that the speaker, Ms. Sweeten, is saying something about herself and not anything about any “black men.”

People who speak in terms of prejudice and hate and use those “unmentionable words” are telling everyone, through the use of said words, that they, the speaker, is ignorant and that they, the speaker, prejudge people.  The speaker is not saying anything about anyone else.

If someone says “You are stupid!” I doubt we, all of a sudden, become “stupid.”  Rather, we think the person speaking needs to work on their social skills because they obviously have some feelings of inadequacy (or something else) and don’t know how to constructively deal with the feeling and/or the situation in which they find themselves…

The afrospear blog has a post about an African American with a swastika tattoo and/or branding (I can’t really tell which it is from the photograph) on his lower back.

I don’t know if the tattoo was intentional or forced on the man.  I don’t know what the man is thinking about the tattoo or the symbol.  I do know that different people can use the same symbol in different ways.  Just because I might think a symbol means something, I don’t think everyone has to think like I do…

A commentator named asabagna stated

Sure the swastika is originally a eastern religious symbol, but it certainly isn’t considered that now. First impressions are what counts! It’s like trying to convince Black people that they should consider a noose as a symbol of a boy scout knot and not an object of murder or intimidation. This guy may have a deeper meaning in mind but his whole image/deal is a hot mess!

I disagree while I understand he/she feels the way he/she does.

My reply was

I understand that most people “here” don’t think of the swastika in the way it was originally used (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika)–at least people in the “western” world…

Sort of like the “white” man telling “another” man to not use a symbol, say “Black Panther,” due to some crazy notion of a “militant”/terrorist organization…

Why let a “hater” hijack a word or symbol from its original meaning? Why give the “hater” power over the words or symbols we use? Why let the hater use any symbol for their “purposes”-whatever they may be–instead of the purpose it had been used for in the past?

Instead, perhaps we could reclaim the original meaning… This removes the power “they” have over our language and the power over how we talk.

Perhaps we could educate ourselves to know what the “truth” of a word/symbol might be so that we can take the “high road” instead of letting them take a symbol that meant something opposite to what they intend to use it for AND make us adopt their view… We should not adopt their view…

Hate the swastika on a white circle in a red rectangle, but I might suggest that many people use symbols within other flags to which we don’t have an immediate reaction because we don’t associate the symbol with a meaning that they are trying to force on the rest of the world.

When you see a star on a flag, you don’t think “racist” do you? How about when you see the flag of the United Kingdom–the Union Jack? Do you think “racist” because there is an “X” on the Union Jack?

Rather than let the symbol be the Nazi, realize the Nazi is the Nazi and the symbol is … just a symbol. Who cares what the Nazi’s think it means? Take the power away from their meaning by giving it the original meaning it had in the “east.”

That way, the educated fold with empathy, intelligence, and love win..

Education. Sort of like realizing the Civil War of the United States of America was not about Slavery–if it was, why did the Emancipation Proclamation only free some/most of the slaves in the states that LEFT the Union? The EP did NOT free slaves in any state that stayed IN the union (if slavery was legal in that state) or in any of the Border States–thus the need for the 13th Amendment…

The EP was great, but lets be honest about what it was… Similarly, lets realize how the Nazi’s and current “pro-white haters” use the swastika symbol without letting them control how we think or react. We, I think, are better.

A commentator named LifeNarts agreed with my general comment about not letting a “hater” alter the definition of a symbol, changing the way everyone sees something so that everyone sees what the “hater” sees.

As I mentioned, we shouldn’t be “seeing” what the “haters” see.  Should we?

I think we are/should be better than that…

We are better than the naming convention used by Chevy when it came to their Nova–a nice inexpensive “muscle car.”  When they marketed the car in Latin America, Chevy was surprised that it did not sell well…  If you know Spanish, you know why.

You see, “No va” means “It doesn’t go…”

Just because one person thinks it “doesn’t go” doesn’t mean it doesn’t go.  My point, of course, is that different people will have different interpretations to a single symbol or word.  We should be able to empathize–set aside our own feelings to see how “that person” is thinking.  If we can’t set aside our own feelings, how do we ever see clearly?  Our own feelings may be “getting in the way” of progress…

Lets not make the same mistakes as those that came before us–whether they were “like” us or not.

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